Lip Care Confusion

[JannyGirl]

I was wondering if the plain Lip Lube is out of stock permanently or temporarily? I don't think I overlooked it, but I may have. I have a friend that prefers plain lip balm.

Also, I have a question about the formula of the balms. I remembering Karen saying there was a v. 1 and a v. 2 (which was not as "slicky" [my word] feeling as v. 1), and there is or was going to be a v. 3 that was a combination of v. 1 and v. 2, but felt more like v. 1. Hope I didn't make that too confusing! Anyway, my question is: what version are the current balms? Are they all the same or is there a difference between the balms that have been on the site and the new ones?

TIA!

[Xarata]

I THINK version 1 is the originals which are more moisturizing and version 2 was the waxier version that came after. Since there seemed to be a pretty clear divide, the new balms are supposed to be a pretty decent blend of both- waxy enough to last a little longer on your lips but still offer good moisture to winter chapped lips. I think Karen is kind of waiting for feedback before truly committing to the new formula, but i could be wrong.

[karen]

I had an OMG moment in the middle of the night Sunday- I didn't do a plain! Sam is correct- there are 3 versions, and all of the new balms are v 3.0. Hopefully you'll all fall in love with that one, and we'll just proceed from there. I'm not that naive- but that's my hope. Feedback is very very welcome.

[JannyGirl]

I THINK version 1 is the originals which are more moisturizing and version 2 was the waxier version that came after. Since there seemed to be a pretty clear divide, the new balms are supposed to be a pretty decent blend of both- waxy enough to last a little longer on your lips but still offer good moisture to winter chapped lips. I think Karen is kind of waiting for feedback before truly committing to the new formula, but i could be wrong.

Thanks so much! I guess we'll have to give the new formula a go and see. I really love a "slicky" balm, so I hope the new formula does the trick because the original version is the best balm by far I have ever used.

[JannyGirl]

I had an OMG moment in the middle of the night Sunday- I didn't do a plain! Sam is correct- there are 3 versions, and all of the new balms are v 3.0. Hopefully you'll all fall in love with that one, and we'll just proceed from there. I'm not that naive- but that's my hope. Feedback is very very welcome.

Lol...No worries, Karen, especially with all the beautiful new products and yummy balms you have turned out your plate has been more than a little full.

And, thank you for being so open to feedback. I need to try a new balm. As long as it has an overall slicky feeling to it, I'll be happy. Do you think you'll add a plain balm? I was planning to order some as stocking stuffers for those that prefer the plain.

[trixiejim]

I had an OMG moment in the middle of the night Sunday- I didn't do a plain! Sam is correct- there are 3 versions, and all of the new balms are v 3.0. Hopefully you'll all fall in love with that one, and we'll just proceed from there. I'm not that naive- but that's my hope. Feedback is very very welcome.

Whatever version Tahitian Vanilla is, I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT !!! It is sooooo soft and moisturizing - the texture is AMAZING.
I do have a question - based on the name, I thought this was going to be vanilla laden, but I don't notice any trace of vanilla in the balm. I do taste the sweetness of the Stevia, but that's it. Am I missing something?

Thanks,
Kim

[packgal]

below is what i came up with for the ingredients for each of the versions of the lip lubes/balms. if anyone can confirm or correct this, that would be great. i really like version 2 but disliked version 1 quite a bit--i was really not impressed with how it had no staying power.
it seems like the ingredients between the 3 are quite similar--some oils are in some but not others, but it seems like mostly it's the amount/ratios of the ingredients that are different.

Version 1: (i had the bad girl green apple one)
Ingredients: Castor, Jojoba, Avocado, and Apricot Kernel oils, Beeswax, Candelilla Wax, Grapeseed Oil, Hempseed Oil, Cranberry Seed Oil, Carnuaba Wax. Flavor- stevia with organic extra virgin coconut oil, and flavor/essential oils

Version 2: (i have the tahitian vanilla, it's great!!)
Ingredients: Extra Virgin Olive Oil*, Castor Oil *, Beeswax*, Candelilla Wax*, Jojoba Oil*, Hempseed Oil*, Pumpkinseed Oil*, Cranberry Oil, Avocado Oil, Carnuaba Wax*, flavor, stevia

Version 3:
Ingredients: Olive*, Castor*, Jojoba*, & Avocado Oils, Beeswax*, Candelilla Wax*, Hemp & Cranberry Oils, Carnuaba Wax*, Flavor*, Stevia

[karen]

I think Susan poured the plain balms today, and I'll make the labels for them when I go in tomorrow. So, hopefully they'll be on the site by the end of the week.

Version 1 had mainly penetrating oils- so people who liked it really liked that it moisturized well, but it soaked in really quickly. Version 2 had mainly non-penetrating oils, so it lasted a long time on your lips. It seemed really great in the Summer when I made it, but when Fall came around, I felt like it needed to be a little more moisturizing. Version 3 has a blend of the 2- tweaked, and tweaked and tweaked to find the balance between moisture and lasting.

I'm happy with the way that formula 3 turned out, but I know that balms are something you never really get completely right or completely wrong- it's the nature of the product.

[Colleen]

For some reason I seem to be allergic to the plain balm. I don't have any problem with any of the other balms.

[JannyGirl]

I think Susan poured the plain balms today, and I'll make the labels for them when I go in tomorrow. So, hopefully they'll be on the site by the end of the week.

Great news! Thanks so much!